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GND218 - Doubling up and doubling down by Pika-la-Cynique GND218 - Doubling up and doubling down by Pika-la-Cynique
Christine is reminded the road to Hell is paved with good intentions. And Raoul has levelled up in trolling since catching up with Arsène. And 'Love Never Dies' is still an unnecessary abominationaddition to POTO canon, kthnxbai. (That's what Raoul is talking about re. Meg)

Meet Cheryl's new colleague Debra! She's trying to get a medical degree. Lets hope she won't be needing it tonight.


This is a work of fanart and solely intended for shits and giggles. Not mine, not making money from it.

Blind Mag (c) Smith, Zdunich, and Bousman, Sarah Brightman
Christine Daaé, Raoul de Chagny and Erik (c) Leroux and Webber
Cheryl and Debra (c) me

Based on the original Roommates comic by *AsheRhyder
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DrawingIsLikeDancing Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2015  Hobbyist
Raoul is back with a vengeance haha poor Magdalene
Alys18 Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2015
I love how Erik looks like his usual murderous self.  I don't care for the sequel either (I've read better fanfics) but I do find some of the songs enjoyable. 
Rhi-LoveMe-HateMe Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2015
Ok, don't get me wrong, Blind Mag is awesome but I really want Erik/Christine to happen. Like really. Like if it doesn't happen I may never recover. Just saying.
Wynnifredd Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2015
Y'know, I'm usually a Raoul fan, (especially when paired with Meg) because he was always such  a stand up kind of guy.

Here, he's coming across as a typical jerk.  What the hay, man?
Pika-la-Cynique Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2015  Professional General Artist
OTOH, Erik has been death-glaring at him and toying with his lasso all evening. And this was all Christine's initiative, and he owes Erik no favours and is actually a little miffed at Christine now he is up to speed, so... Also, certain Phangirls will just hate him anyway, so whevs, rolling with it.
Wynnifredd Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2015
yeeah, don't even get me started on the wimpy limp lasso. There's no way on God's green earth the common way it's portrayed would work. It would almost need the tensility of a stiff wire, like a firm lariat or a bullwhip almost, ith the draw noose on the end.  What most illustrations have him carting round is nothing more htan a limp rope tied in a headsman's noose. Nothing fancy or innovative about that.

it's downright insultin'.
Bookwormgal Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2015
Well, technically there aren't any statues of limitations in regards to murder, but moving on...
Pika-la-Cynique Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2015  Professional General Artist
... There are in French law, akshully, to the best of my understanding.
MsRedmobile Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2014
While I agree 900% with Raoul; dude there is a time and place for this!
I can't help but love Raoul. Stupid yes but so smooth~!
NightShadow13 Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2014
Raoul has got so many points and I love him so. I know you're a bit more EC, but I thank you so kindly for not bashing!
LilMissPeppy Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I like E/M.
Much more so than E/S. :love:
Figarro-Luv Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
NO. The sequel NEVER happened, bogdamnit. -_-
Igenlode Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Erik still signs his restaurant receipts "O.G."? ;)  You can take the Ghost out of the Opera, but...

Mag is really the only one who looks quite happy with the 'extremely awkward' stage... a little odd, perhaps, as the drying-up of conversation would be all the more obvious from her point of view. Or maybe she's just more cautious about keeping up a pleasant front as she can't tell whether anybody is looking at her or not.

Why on earth is Erik carrying spare strings around with him? Spare organ bits I could sort of understand...

Surely Raoul is the one with the most motive of any of them to not mention the sequel! (He is the only one for whom it is unmitigated tragedy, after all, not to mention the one who suffers the most character assassination in the set-up...)

"We've all moved on" -- judging by the evil eye he's getting in this panel, he wouldn't by any chance be quoting a leaden assertion by Christine from earlier in the evening, would he? ;) (Wink) 

"Her own villainous stalker": oh Erik -- ouch!

Erik-baiting: such sweet irresistible pleasure, and never fails. I'd say that Raoul has been taking lessons from Jareth in the art, but I don't think he has had the opportunity.
Pika-la-Cynique Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2014  Professional General Artist
Erik always has his Punjab Lasso on hand, or a close equivalent. Lightweight and barely makes a bulge in a fellow's pocket. Making cat's cradles with it is a new and mildly unnerving development to any characters who recognize it for what it is. 'Fortunately' most of his students don't.

Raoul has the most motive to dislike the sequel?? I'm sorry, bashed to the dirt as he may be, he survives it. Christine still gets to be the maddest about the whole offensive and ultimately murderous debacle. And Raoul needles Erik with the cheap jab at that plotline because, as has been faaaaintly hinted at, Erik is the only one to have a smidgeon of a hesitation in casting the sequel plot aside, and that desolidarizes him from his canon-mates. Of course Erik hates the idea of Christine's death, and finds the whole thing ham-fisted and grotesque BUT.... well, in all awfulness, um, ''moonless night'', well, and schadenfreude at Raoul's devolution, and Gustave.... well, Erik's condemnation of the sequel plot ends up somewhat more like a wavery 98-99% rather than 200% NOPE, which is something Raoul can feel legitimately angered by.

Yeah, you've pretty much nailed that ''we've all moved on ~ " panel though. ;)

Igenlode Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Ohhh... catgut = lasso! (I think I've always vaguely associated the Punjab Lasso idea with the Thugs of "Nightrunners of Bengal", who performed very similar feats with a length of cloth, and of course fanfic tends to have it as a rope, so I never made the connection.)

Taking "Love Never Dies" at what appears to be its intended face value (which may well be a stretch too far from the point of view of the GND characters...) 'surviving' is not necessarily the happiest outcome of the situation :(
The idea appears to be that Christine gets to liberate her art and expire ecstatically in the arms of her One True Love in true operatic fashion (and apologise to him! For not advertising the bastard that resulted from his walking out on her and leaving her pregnant! *extreme sarcasm*)
Erik gets to grind his old rival's face into the dust and enjoy a (brief) rapturous reunion with the woman of his dreams before being left with Someone To Love Him in the shape of the bonus child. He also, of course, gets to do the nasty retrospectively with Christine.
Raoul gets to lose everything he had and ever thought he had: his wife's life and her affections, their son (and whoever his father, Gustave is a living reminder of Christine), his marriage, his self-respect and even his patrimony... By the end of the show, he is left in the situation where the woman he loves seemingly only ever married him as a last resort to cover up her pregnancy by the man who tried to murder him (and after whom she has instead  been hankering for the last ten years!), the son who, for whatever masochistic reasons, apparently adored him (constantly pulling on his sleeve with cries of 'Daddy! Daddy!' -- and it's Gustave, not Christine, who asks for Raoul when she gets shot) has transferred his affections across to a man who initially terrified him into fits (in addition to being a cuckoo in the nest in the first place) and he's broke, alcoholic, heirless, disgraced and hounded by the Press.
And he has to live with the knowledge that his final attempt at being noble and acting for Christine's benefit rather than his own -- in telling her to go and live with the Phantom and be happy (and, incidentally, in not telling her about the methods used by Erik to obtain this outcome, which he could easily have done: it makes them look equally bad, but Raoul is the one with nothing left to lose in owning up!) -- effectively resulted in her death within half an hour. If Raoul had gone after Gustave on the pier instead of Erik, Meg would almost certainly never have let off that shot: she has no axe to grind where he is concerned.
So yes, he gets to survive... with nothing left to live for, basically. The show was evidently written to be Erik's Tragedy, but the author doesn't much care what he does to Raoul: the result is that he's the one character whose arc is simply Loser with no redeeming tragic features at all.

Whether you want to be part of a tragedy is another matter...
Pika-la-Cynique Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2014  Professional General Artist
Well argued. I do tend to prefer to channel Chris, and I am heartily sick of fridged female characters, though that is not quite the trope at play; I'd rather focus on the injustice done to her than the resultant man-pain.
Igenlode Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
'man-pain' pretty well sums up "Love Never Dies", really... (And yes, I have spent far too much time analysing it over the past year or so, albeit for purposes of fictional subversion.)

The most psychologically convincing argument I've heard for the nature of its existence is the one that claims that it was Lloyd Webber's subconscious revenge on Sarah Brightman as Christine: while they were married in real life, he was happy with the idea of 'ugly composer loses talented soprano', but by the time he came to write a sequel he ending up presenting the world with a scenario where Christine turned down her genius and has been feeling absolutely awful about it ever since, and can't wait to apologise to him... before ending up safely dead, and hence His For Ever!
Pika-la-Cynique Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2014  Professional General Artist
I pretty much felt that reality subtext oozing from the pores of the thing too. Makes it extra satisfying to dismiss and un-canon the whole sorry mess.
Irrissa-cicero Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
And now they'll be forced to talk about Jareth...
Kyndsie Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
So... even though Cheryl could actually have accurate knowledge of names and current relationship-type status (thanks to her own dear Leggy...), she doesn't let on to the new colleague just HOW weird the Building denizens are.

And is Raoul about to try to take something from Mag's plate? Uninvited???

Okay, and I'm curious about the chef that we almost see in the first panel. I'm so NOT up on fictional characters who might cook / should cook / shouldn't cook that I can't even begin to guess. Unless it's randomly another of Bowie's incarnations? :D
EpiphanyBlue Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2013
There appears to be a platter in the middle of the table. He's more likely after that.
Kyndsie Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
OH, I see. I was more focused on everybody's facial expressions to pay close enough attention to the stuff actually on the table. Well-spotted.
NikiMaweird Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Sorry Erik, but Raoul has some points :rofl:
OchitaSora Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2013
Past the point if no return. You're not even quite an ex now.
Ananomouse Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2013
Arsene is a bad influence on Raul. Maybe if he and Erik could get along for a while then he could pull this off without bloodshed. SOmehow right now, I['m prepared to duck.
InvaderPhantomstar1 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2013
No going back now, all hopes being at ease are in the past now! We've past the point of awkwardneeeeees....
Phoneix-Faerie Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
poor thing....
AvalonRae Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Raoul, stop bullying Eric!!! :noes:
InvaderPhantomstar1 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2013
No he deserves this!!
AvalonRae Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
No maybe, but he said he was sorry so many times and he's making so much progress! He doesn't deserve it now! Maybe earlier in the comic, but not now!
InvaderPhantomstar1 Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013
Not that Erik deserves to be put through a hard time but that Raoul deserves to poke fun for once :P
AvalonRae Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, yeah. That I agree with. :D
ChucklingDevil Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013
Brilliant :D
I absolutely love it when you get Erik and Raoul in the same room together! Certainly hope to see more of the Repo cast soon!
PastMisfortunes Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Omigosh. These four on a double date. YES. YES. YES.
Katwalker Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2013
Oh my gosh, Raoul is amazing here. Sorry, sorry, I'm still a big Erik fan, but I've just been waiting for the hassled fop to get a little one-upmanship moment in the spotlight. Christine was really, REALLY optimistic if she thought this evening would end in anything good. ...Actually, considering the history between those two men, probably snarky trolling is the best of all possible outcomes for this double-date endeavor. I feel a bit bad for poor Mag getting caught in the middle of all this.

I can't wait to get back to Sarah, but now I really want to see more of trainwreck of an evening.

Unrelated: I love Debra's hair.
IsabelM Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2013
I like new, sassy Raoul. I mean, how long can you be "so-good-it's-dumb" without dying by tripping with your own shoes? The guy was due to mature some day. It's reasonable something like that would happen.

And, for the record, your third digital comic at 2 sterling pounds came out, I got my e-mail notification and bought it.

The images were lovely. The story was atrociously sad. It was good, but damn, girl, there's an economic crisis here! I'll support you with whichever I can for all the effort and talent and thought and geek-freak-role-playing culture and knowledge you put into this. Only, just... , next time, can you let me support you with something a bit merrier? Pretty please? *Begs on her knees*.

Sorry, unhappy today. I love your comics. Specially this one, makes my days happier. I hope when the figures for the e-comic sales come out you get a lot of sales. I bought all three of them.

Readers, if you didn't buy Pika's comics, I curse you with fangirlish fury. Support this webcomic, pleeeeez.
Pika-la-Cynique Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013  Professional General Artist
Aw thanks for the support, glad you... appreciated it, if not enjoyed. :/ Sorry? ^^;
IsabelM Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2014
Don't worry. Some stories are sad :-)   It was a good story, just sad. I just prefer humor, but I understand that's the hardest thing to do.
theTieDyeCloak Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2013
Erik's death glare is the absolute best :love:
Kinshi-Setsunai Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I can't get over all of Erik's fantastic facial expressions. ^_^
wings33 Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2013
Haha... poor Raoul.. your character development is so controversial. You stick to your guns, Pika. You and Raoul can troll together, and it will be glorious.

I fully support sassy!Raoul, but now, now, no need to look pointedly at Erik as though he's somehow responsible for Meg's character-rape in that-which-must-not-be-referenced. Just stick to the ol' statute of limitations until you get it out of your system.

Erik? Deal. I love you best... but deal.
Vive-le-revolution Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2013
I love that Blind Mag's in this now...such a cute partner for Erik ^^
Korli-Kitty Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2013
Raoul, are you trying to get the wedding called off? Because you're headed for it pretty well right here.
9leben Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2013
Raoul likes to live a dangerous life.
Indigo-Night-Wisp Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2013
I love seeing the waitresses at the peeps favorite hangout... Cheryl never fails to amuse...

Oh, poor Christine, trying so hard to keep everyone from murdering each other before dessert...

I rather like troll!Raoul. He has his moments. "Kidnapped by her OWN villainous stalker this time." Bwahahaha! Can't let anything go, can he?
Leni84 Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2013
First time in my life I've actually rooted for Raoul. Extra kudos for that.

Poor Mag, though. She doesn't deserve to be in the middle of all that. Please say she gets to lower down Raoul's little let's-ruin-my-girlfriend's-idea thing (even if, admittedly, it was a BAD idea. Erik must still be half-besotted with her, to have agreed).

Also, *luvs Cheryl*
RomanceFreak Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh my gosh, this is so AAAAAWWKWAAARRD.....
Soul-Tigeress Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2013
I really like sassy Raoul, its urging me to finish reading POTO. Also I've never watched the sequel, I can't really bring myself to do so seeing as I know that at the end of the book (SPOILER) Erik dies so I kind of just base my views off book canon- in which Raoul is an utter gentleman that does so many things to win Christine and save her that you just have to love him.
crazyashley Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm' still waiting for you to throw a combination of Charles/Gustave in here just to f*ck with Erik and Christine...because we all know Susan Kay's "Phantom" was an awesome tribute, and LND would never have happened had there not been some market for an Erik/Christine kid (ALW just picked the totally wrong avenue...) that and they don't mention the sequel so much it almost begs to be played with more
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